Hallie Hill Animal Sanctuary is a 501c3 nonprofit organization that provides a safe haven for animals with no other home or shelter. They prepare animals for adoption by providing respite, rehabilitation, and socialization. Hallie Hill has over 30 acres of land with large enclosures for dogs to live and play. This organization helps Charleston to achieve the status of a No-Kill Community by working with local shelters and rescues to take in dogs that might not get adopted due to age, medical or behavioral issues.
“Welcome to the Air P A Animal Rescue of the Week podcast featuring outstanding organizations around the country that are helping animals and the people who rescue them. This podcast is proudly sponsored by do bert dot com. Do Bert is a free website designed to connect volunteers with rescues and shelters and the only site that automates rescue relay transport. Let’s meet this week’s featured animal rescue. Hallie Hill Animal Sanctuary is a nonprofit organization that sits on over 30 acres of land. They provide a safe place for animals with no other home or shelter, while focusing on preparing animals for adoption. The staff and volunteers of Holly Hill also provide a loving forever home for those animals whose chances of adoption are reduced to due to various reasons. Their overall mission is to provide a compassionate safe haven with quality food and medical care for dogs and cats, a temporary home for those able to be adopted and a forever home for those in need. Hi, Jen. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me on. Of course, I’m very interested in learning more about your organization. So you are the executive director at the Holly Hill Animal Sanctuary in South Carolina. Is that correct? Yes, ma’am. Perfect. Well, I’m ready to just jump on in and learn more about your organization. Can you tell me a little bit about it and how you got started there? Absolutely. It’s a wonderful place. The sanctuary is located on almost 40 acres of land in Hollywood, South Carolina, and it’s been there for over 30 years, and I would write down the road and didn’t know anything about it until about 2010. I came on staff there, and it’s just an incredible place. I’ve been in love with it ever since I’ve gotten there. We care for over 200 animals at a time. It’s usually 150 dogs in about 50 cats. There’s also a colony of feral cash that we care for. Okay, that’s interesting. Yeah, it’s been here for over 30 years, and it was started by an amazing woman. Her family had a horse born out on the property, and stray dogs would wonder up back. 30 years ago, our local open and take shelter was not what it is today. That was a very high euthanasia rate, and she didn’t want to turn the animals into the shelter. She would list him in the paper as ah found dog, and if no one came to pick the animal up, then she would provide the medical care it needed and provided a forever home if it was needed. So is really just an amazing place. And there’s a need for more sanctuaries in the area. Can you to distinguish the difference between a sanctuary and a rescue? Oh, I’m so glad you asked, because it’s really difficult. I think people don’t quite understand the concept. There’s so many rescues and shelters out there. But a sanctuary is quite different. Our organization can provide long term safety if needed. We can provide a lifelong place for these animals if they’re not adoptable, and therefore we focus on the less adoptable. We have animals that might be just needing short term sanctuary, safe for medical or behavioral issues that can be rehabilitated. But we also taken animals that need long term sanctuary, whether it be medical, that’s very intensive and difficult to work with, or it might be behavioral that we find out later down the road cannot be rehabilitated. It might be behavioral in that the fact that some animals, through no fault of their own will never be quite content in a personal household. So this is a type of animal that can’t live its entire life in a shelter environment. You know, with the concrete floor on a small candle. It needs a different environment altogether. So if people look on the Web site and see pictures of Holly Hill, there’s these large grass enclosures. Like I said, it started off as a horse barn. You know, these large pastures look like they’re more for cattle or livestock, horses and such. But there’s large dog houses as well with hey, bedding and heat lamps. There’s upon where volunteers can take the animals, the dogs that enjoy swimming to go swimming. There’s an enrichment program, so the volunteers actually are spending quality time with the dogs and cats that you’re not worried about them becoming just bored in their everyday activities. We know that they need that interaction, that socialization, even the Farrells. You know, we have several animals that we take from local shelters and rescues that are so under socialized it. If they’re not feral. They’re very close to being feral, and it takes time for us to really assess and determine whether they’re gonna be able to be rehabilitated. So, you know, the sanctuary gives us that privilege of not having to rush them in and out of the door. You know, we have the time in the space that we can provide that lifelong home if needed. Our biggest goal is to get these animals into homes. I don’t want you to think that we only take in sanctuary animals. We take in a lot of animals that we call helper dogs, especially helper dogs that are very highly adoptable. And it might be the only thing against them is their age. Or they might have one behavioral issue. That’s not that big of a deal that we know that we can work through and is easily adoptable. And they help us breaking through to some of the other less socialized animals. So, yeah, the sanctuary is definitely very, very different than a shelter or arrest you. One thing that kind of stood out to me was you had mentioned that is an animal or a doll comes in and they’ve got those behavioral issues and you know that they’re not gonna be able to be adopted due to those issues. How do you guys as a sanctuary, provide the attention and everything that that animal needs? That somebody from a loving home that would be able to dedicate their time to them? How would that work? I mean, I hope that that was kind of clear, but how What are you guys doing for that pet that’s got the behavioral issues that somebody that could dedicate their time in a loving home could do for that? Okay, all right. I think I understand your question. There’s so many different ways to approach that. Top it because every dog and every cat is an individual. It’s like if anybody’s in education, they haven’t i e p an individual education plan. So we almost have that with the dogs and the cats in our care. So okay, we individualize how we approach each animal. Like we have some animals that have restraint issues. They cannot be restrained for vetting without becoming honestly fractious. If you try to restrain them, they’re gonna try and bite. So that’s not necessarily something you’re going to stand in to any home. It’s not saying there’s not an adopter out there that could handle it like we do, but there’s not a lot of adopt or South. They’re able to deal with a fractious dog or cat, so we handle each animal individually, depending on its behavior. Some of the behaviors might be that their destructive in the house. You know, you see a lot of people surrendering pets or not wanting to take pets because of separation anxiety. When we adopt out our adoption process in our adoption program, we really try to educate the adopters on what the issues are with the animals. We try and make sure you know this is what we’ve seen. This is why the animal was surrendered to us. Here are different ways that you could address the problem, and we want to make sure they’re willing to work with it if we get them into a home. The animals that have like separation anxiety at the sanctuary, it depends on what the separation anxiety is. You know, if they tear up soft bedding, then that animal might not be given soft bedding. It might be giving Hey, so the problem is eliminated right there. If we’re worried that it’s gonna choke on stuffed toys or stuff betting its individual for every animal, depending on what their behavior is that got them in there. Some of the animals are just so under socialized, like we have a cute little guy named Nugget right now, and he came to us from a local rescue that did a lot of in house fostering. What they do is they go to upstate and they pull from shelters anything they think super adoptable. They put him into Foster’s, and then they try and place them into homes. So this little guy, they said, Oh, he’s tiny, He’s cute. We’re gonna get him over this fear of people and we’re gonna get him adopted out. Well, you know, that critical period of socialization was just missed with him, and Little Nugget is cute as he is. He doesn’t want to be handled. He’s warmed up to us, you know, we he’ll take a cookie through the fence. He’ll come up close to people who he knows really well while they’re in the enclosure with him. And if somebody wants to adopt them, they can adopt them But they have to understand he’s going to do better with another dog. He’s gonna want to follow that other dog in and out of the house. He’s not ever gonna be the type of dog who’s gonna want to go out in public tow bars or to picnic areas or places where there’s a lot of people walking around. But he still could be part of the house household environment and part of a family. He’s just not gonna be the type of pet it’s going to go to sleep beside, you on the couch or something like that. Like I said, every dog’s an individual and every cat as well. Yes, I would definitely say so. And I noticed on your website that your guys is quote, I guess, is while we can’t change and animals past, our mission is to rewrite their future. And I just want to let you know I absolutely love that quote because you it is so 100% accurate. And when you take in an animal, you don’t know what they’ve been through, and that’s why I want to point out. Also, you guys take the time to learn about that animal and give them love and learn what they like, what they don’t like. And I feel like that really ties in to that quote. And so I feel like it really matches your organization. It does. It does. Rescue is not just a verb, it’s a promise. You know, I don’t know if you’ve heard that quote, too, but we have it hanging on a sign and are born that we want these animals to not ever suffer hardship again. We want anything, you know, that was bad about their past, not to be repeated. So we make sure we tell a doctor’s to a lot of rescues. Do this, that they say, you know, bring the dog back. If it doesn’t work out, bring the cat back if it doesn’t work out. So we always have to know that we might have one of our family members returning to its sad when it happens. But we know that we’re gonna love him. We’re gonna cherish him. Another thing that makes a sanctuary different that I failed to mention before was that we actually have a cemetery on the property and the cemetery is called Angels Crossing and angels crossing is where we lay them to rest, and we tell adopters that if they want to bury their pet at angels crossing, they are more than welcome to. But the staff will stop what they’re doing for the day, and we’ll go out when it is time to say goodbye to one of our beloved residents and will say what we remembered fondly. You know, it’s like it’s a little funeral service. It’s a little way to be respectful. And remember that this dog, cat bunny, whatever the animal was that passed through our gates that it was loved when it was there and it had a home. It was not a homeless animal. It might have been homeless, part of its life, but it was loved and cherished while it was in our gates. And while it was with us, what’s really sad is the ones that come does so late in life that we don’t have enough time to really spoil him and freedom special that breaks my heart when we get one, and they don’t have very much time left. But yeah, not know in their history, we want to make sure their future is the best it can be. Definitely. I think that’s so sweet that you guys have something like that within your sanctuary. So I’m kind of curious as to what the community is light in her area. Is there any particular challenges that the animals in that area faced being in the rural South? First off, we’re very fortunate to be in Charleston County. Charleston County is a community very rich with wonderful rescues, wonderful shelters with people that are just hard working, heart fell, big, animal loving community. It’s an amazing community. Charleston County, now in our specific area. Hollywood, South Carolina. It’s very rural. We’re not in the city of Charleston, but we are part of Charleston County. Our community itself is very rural, and a lot of it is low socioeconomic status. A lot of people are not quite as educated as far as the care for their animals, and there’s a lot of cultural norms that air thick in the South. As far as having hunting dogs. They’re not part of the family that hunting dogs or tools, and so they might live on tethers. They might live in very small concrete runs. They don’t have the access to veterinary care to the standard that most animals do and that we’d like most animals to see. We also have a lot of culture in the community, especially dogs, their yard dogs. They might wander out into the streets. You know, I just got a call 30 minutes ago about one of my volunteers found a little pit bull in the road. She didn’t see anyone nearby. It was obvious that had been tethered and it broke its tether. So we’re trying to educate the local community and try and raise the standard of care in the local community. We’re very happy to be part of no kill South Carolina, which is a coalition trying to raise the overall standard of care and reduce the euthanasia rates of animals throughout South Carolina. But our community is very diverse. Like I said, the very small community that were closest to and they were actually located in has a long way to go On the other end of Charleston County. There’s a very high socioeconomic status. There’s people that they have the pet insurance for their pets. Their pets have all the medical leads that they need. You know they’ll go to the cardiologists. When it’s needed, they’ll go to the veterinary ophthalmologist. There’s also the complete opposite on the other end of the county. So it’s an interesting situation, or it’s an interesting geographic location. But I think that we’re doing well trying to educate community and times are changing. It’s just a slow, very slow process. But I think we are heading in the right direction. So I’m curious, too. I know that you had mentioned that you guys have some programs. What kind of programs does the sanctuary offer and how does that make you different? Because I know we were discussing the difference between a sanctuary and a rescue. Do you guys offer any type of programs that are different than the usual? Well, we have the usual, which is the adoption program, the volunteer program. We have a community outreach program. We have a very small foster program, the foster program’s mostly foster to adopt, and we even have a small education program. But I’d say one of our programs it’s different because it’s a sanctuary is the part of it. I would say it’s underneath. The volunteer program is how we socialize and rehabilitate the dogs. I guess that’s just part of us being a sanctuary. We’re starting something new where we’re gonna be focusing on a dog of the month. You know, our goal before was just that every animal has quality time spent with them every day. So a group of volunteers would come out and there’s, you know, a checklist of all 150 of our dogs. And, you know, all of our 50 cats in the category and people would try and make sure that every animal was seen. That’s time was spent either walking than brushing and throwing the ball, you know, sent enrichment, things like that. But we’re focusing more now on, like, this specific dog is just slightly under socialized. So we’re gonna work with them just accepting you, putting a leash on them, or this dog is turned in because they cool. They’re so rough, they jump up and they pull on a leash. So we’re just working on these behaviors and the same volunteers were repeating the same practices with the animal over and over again. So our volunteer program is critical. I think granny, not profit Volunteers were critical, but the volunteers actually helping the animals, dogs or cats become more adoptable in the consistency with that is what’s really gonna help. I think I really love that aspect about it. So I definitely think that that being a part of the volunteer program is awesome. Do you mind me asking how many volunteers roughly you guys have? Yeah, it was funny. Somebody else asked me the other day and I actually counted up. We have over 100 on the roster and now was within this last year. But there’s probably only 20 to 30 that are hard core and very active. Yeah, most volunteers. We have a very small group that focuses mostly on the cats. I would say about six or seven volunteers that focus mostly on the cats. I can’t say I have favorites, but if I did no, I’m just getting for my maintenance Volunteers. I have some wonderful people will help me with everything from fixing tractors to computers. You know, my maintenance volunteers are so critical because we’re non profit and, you know, we’re always trying to keep the costs down. So volunteers to help with that kind of stuff and then also the huge portion of our volunteers are the ones that spend time with the dogs, the socialization of the dogs. So many animals that we have at the sanctuary, especially the dogs, are under socialized there, either fearful of humans or their semi feral. They just have not had the proper socialization with people, and having different people come up and come spend time with them every day is what it’s gonna take for them to progress and possibly become adoptable and be able to be comfortable in a human song. Like I said, I love the whole aspect about how you talk about spending time with each and every animal, because it’s a parent for you guys. And you know, that kind of leads me to What are some challenges that you guys face? I know you kind of touched base that you guys have. The owner surrenders the different sides of the community with that and stuff like that. But I’m just kind of wondering what a sanctuaries challenges would be funding. Getting people to understand that a sanctuary is not an outcome based operation we can’t judge are valued by how many we adopt out because we’re not taking the highly adoptable. The highly adoptable ones like that. You know, purebreds that the people are just moving out of country and they want to turn in this young, pure bred dogs. Those aren’t the ones were taken in. So we’re trying to get people to understand that there’s value with us, even though we don’t have these high rates of adoptions because it’s a sanctuary. There’s this built in issue with it becomes like a clogged funnel, a no kill network. You know most of the rescues in the shelters. It’s like a funnel, a big wide funnel, and they come in very fast, and then they funnel through and they go out with a sanctuary. They come in. But there’s only so much space that you can safely accommodate animals without lowering your quality of care. So because we don’t have a high rate going out, then there’s a low rate that we’re able to take it. How we’re trying to address that issue is through our help or dogs animals that are less socialized. They learn better from other animals. They need an interspecies liaison. They need another dog to tell them humans are okay, so those are the ones that we will take in that are adoptable. They might just be a little bit older, or maybe they have one blind eye. Or maybe they’re not house trained yet, but they’re friendly with people. They’re friendly with other dogs, and they’d be super pets. Eso we take those in and they don’t stay very long. They’re not long term sanctuaries, residents. They come in and they go out, so we’re able to keep a slower rate. But the funnel does sometimes get called, you know, periods of time. We were not able to take in animals, and we always stay with a full waitlist. I meant there’s just so many, and it’s a challenge that, you know, turning people down that are on the phone crying because they need to surrender their animals for one reason or another is heartbreaking. And that’s our challenge. Is getting the word out that you know, with more support, that we are a non profit, more support, that we could expand our programs and they think that they could just do a one time. You know, we’ll we’ll pay to get our dog in there. Well, we don’t even charge a surrender fee. We take donations when they come in, but we have a lot of animals that they need to be with us more than any other and the people who are surrendering and would not have any funds to pay a surrender feet. So I think that funding is the biggest challenge and getting the word out. We are really trying to work hard to get the word out. We were fortunate enough to be one of our dogs that we took from it actually ended up being an owner. Surrender, even though it was adopted out twice by local shelters was a little fella named Ray. Now Ray came to us blind and he was so sweet, so handsome. He didn’t do great with other dogs, though he couldn’t read their body language and he didn’t know their intention when they came in. But, Ray, we sent him to the vet just to have his eyes checked out. We knew that he was not visual, but it turned out the veterinary ophthalmologist found out that he was actually painful. So we had out his eyes removed. Well, he happened to get featured in a national advertisement campaign by Subaru. It was called National Make a Dog’s Day, so we got some national publicity. Ray had his 15 minutes of fame and lots of calls about Ray, but we don’t do same day adoptions, and people have to realize that they had to go through a process and they had to wait. Ray was also on the Hallmark Channel as several of our other dogs, and I think we might have maybe not had a cat featured yet, but we featured many dogs on the Hallmark Channel, So we are getting a little bit of national publicity and getting the word out about our sanctuary. It’s just an ongoing challenge when you say that your dogs are being featured on the Hallmark Channel, can you kind of share with me a little bit more about what’s going on and whether on there, absolutely the home our channel has a program? It’s a talk show. It’s called adoption ever after. I think that we’re the only animal rescue in South Carolina that is featured on there, and they found us through our Web page and they called us and asked us if we’d like to participate, and we jumped at the chance, but they feature animals from different rescues and shelters all over the country. And we were very fortunate that they asked us to participate. That’s amazing. And that’s news to me because I literally have never heard of that. So I find that very intriguing. That must have been a great opportunity for your sanctuary. It was It was we were thrilled to be a part of it, as we are thrilled to be part of your podcasts. Well, thank you. I mean, talking with you guys is great. And I’m so happy that we’re able to learn more about you, And I kind of want to jump back into something that kind of stood out to me. Was you said that your funding is a challenge for you guys. Come, You share with me a little bit about any type of events or fundraisers that you guys do to kind of help bring in some of that missing funding? Absolutely. We have an annual golf turn it called putting for pause. We do that every spring. We have different events out in the community where we try and raise funds. We’re gonna be having a quote raffle shortly. That is online ticket sales for the quote. Raffle is little things here and there, but a lot of online donations like, for example, this Christmas or through the holiday season, not even necessarily Christmas. But if somebody wants to send a holiday gift to someone they could donate to the sanctuary and they’d be giving the gift of sanctuary. So we would have to do is send an E card recognizing that the donation was made in a friend or a loved one’s name and that money would come to the dogs, cats and right now, bunny and swirls of how Hill lots of online fundraising. We do some sponsorship programs where they can sponsor a canine cabin or cat condo. They could put their personal name or their company’s name for an annual sponsorship. It’s $500 for in perpetuity, it’s 5000. That’s one way that we raise money for the sanctuary as well. And there’s so many medical costs. If you think about just heartworm and flea prevention for 200 animals every month, that is extensive because we take in so many older animals. We had five. The blue ones went to the vet today, and they all needed Ray these vaccinations. But that’s not a big deal, but they also needed exams. Two of them will need follow up exams at the ophthalmologist because there’s so much older. Two of the five have to be put on arthritis medication. One has a heart murmur, so recheck after six months and possibly on going to the Cardiologists Dental care’s there so many medical expenses that people could donate just specifically to our magic fund and magic stance for medical and geriatric intensive care. They could donate an honor in Memorial. We bring in a lot of money in Memorial’s People donate in memory of their pet or their friends pet, and we send an acknowledgement letter or email to them in memory of their pet or in memory of a human who died. So we do personal memorials as well. So those are just some of the ways that we’re trying to bring in money to fund the sanctuary and its programs. How do you guys go about transferring animals to the vet? Great question. When they first come in, we transport him individually to the vet for an intake exam. Some of the vetting at the sanctuary itself. In other words, you know any vaccinations we can do. Heartworm tests. We can do vaccinations such as distemper, parvo border, tell of vaccinations. Now we can’t do Rabies vaccinations without a vet license, so those animals would have to go in to see the veterinary and for the Rabies vaccine. But also we make use of a local vet here in the area called West Ashley. That clinic and they are wonderful with us. See our animals a lot of times with almost no heads up, No wait time. We have some wonderful specialty. That’s that Neri specialty care. They have an excellent surgeon orthopedic surgeon who’s done everything from sub locks, aided patellas to spinal repairs on some of our dogs. Cruciate repairs. And they give us a great discount. But a regular vet, West Ashley, that they’re kind enough for our long term animals that are gonna be at the sanctuary probably remained our lives. They will come out to the sanctuary every three years for the Rabies vaccine if something goes wrong with that animal. In the meantime, that we can’t handle on the premises. We do have thio take the animal and transport them into the vet, but also have some wonderful volunteers who help with that as well. We’re very lucky to have some great veterinary partners. Animal I care of the low country is another example there, Specialist with the eyes. If you’ve ever had a dog or cat with issues, do you know how frustrating it can be to treat that the specialist in that area, they really know what they’re talking about. So So, yeah, we definitely make use of their service is to So, jin, I’m picking up on a few things just from talking to you. It seems like you are very experienced in the animal rescue field so that Spike’s my curiosity to kind of ask you, Do you have any memorable stories that are your personal stories That kind of creative, how you got started in the role that you’re in My personal story is just that I grew up in this rural area. I grew up just 10 minutes down from the sanctuary and I live where my parents would drive down the road in ideal Stop, stop the car because there was a box on the side of the road, and inside that box is either a literal puppies or maybe a couple kittens that someone just tossed out on the side of the road because they couldn’t care for that. My parents, the big hearts that they had, would not tell their little crying girl that she could take him home. And, you know, I wasn’t from the wealthiest backgrounds, but, you know, we didn’t have a high standard of it here in my family, but we would provide them sanctuary. We took these pets home. We provided food and warmth and shelter, and as much bet here is, we could, you know, afford there was never a time that they would turn away. I remember my daddy bringing home a dog from the local dump, and it had no hair, no hair at all. And we called it Baldy. But my dad’s home. We actually had another one several years later named Dumpster. But Baldy and Dumpster had the most beautiful fur coats by the time we had finished treating them for their terrible case of mange that they had at the time. You know, I think my parents allowing me to have a big heart is a child in allowing me to make room in our home. Whether it be just a couple of dogs at a time made me realize, you know, no matter what you could do, you can always do something. You know, you can always make someone’s life a little bit better if you’re willing to put forth the effort. So I think that that’s what led me to care for. Animals and animals were just incredible. Their adaptability, their strength, their inner stoicism. And then they’re amazing. They truly are. I will definitely agree with you. And, you know, thank you for sharing that story with me. This is definitely one of my favorite parts of the podcast is just hearing about this and, you know, I’m totally relating to how you said that you have such a great family that allowed you to bring in these animals, and you guys as a family cared for them. And you know that such an important thing for me, especially because I’m a firm believer that our Children and the youth of our community there are future. And it’s important to instill, like instill in them that animals are their amazing creatures. They have emotions they have, you know, needs and you know, so to share that with kids and everything like that, it’s truly important, and I honestly feel like it will make a difference. Oh, it does our education program. You know, we visit elementary schools, probably the most often, but occasionally middle and high schools. And sometimes we have programs where just for the day the students can visit, because most of time our volunteers have to be over 18. But if it’s a daily volunteer program, but you’re teaching Children humane education just to be humane to animals and you know, kind other people, it’s critical and it can’t be skipped in the education program. Yes, absolutely. I agree 100%. So, Jen, I know we’ve kind of covered a lot of faces, and I want to kind of get a vision of what the future looks like for your sanctuary. Well, I hope that I’m able to get everything squared away, that the funding is not a problem for the future. You know, it’s been a gold since I’ve come on with Hallie Hill. Animal Sanctuary is to get the funding just so that we can focus on expansion. Like I said, it’s heartbreaking to turn people away. Eventually, we love to expand the program, to be able to take more dogs, more cats. We’d like to be able to expand the program to eat and take exotics or possibly farm animals. But you know that is in the future. We’ve got to make sure that we can sustain what we have first, and that part of that is getting the word out about our sanctuary and getting people to see the value in a sanctuary, even though we don’t have the high turnover of numbers. So you know, hopefully our future is bright. I think that we are getting the word out. It’s just a slow process. I definitely think that what you guys are doing is awesome. I think that you guys have a good mission of good value ass, but I truly believe that And I’m very excited to see what the future has in store for you guys. So anything else that you love to share with us before we wrap things up? No, I think that you’ve covered everything that I was planning to talk about. We really appreciated your time today. and I hope people listening, check out the website as well at halley hell dot com. If anybody is looking to get in contact with you guys or volunteer with, you guys are even adopt. How would one go about doing that? How can they get in contact with you guys? Everything through our website is very simple. How ill dot com is the website on There is our adoption application, and that’s the first step in adopting. We have such a small staff that adoptions are by appointment only. Tours of the facility are also by appointment only, but they can email us at info at holly hill dot com to schedule an appointment for a tour of the facility. If they want to adopt, they have to just start by filling out that application on the website. They would be contacted shortly to see if we have a good fit. Also, I forgot to mention, and we have a wonderful person that’s working on our Facebook or Instagram. We have a beautiful Facebook page for Holly Hill Animal Sanctuary and our Instagram account for those that are more hip than I am. Just everybody Beverly already running, use more hip and may know, but social media right now is you are absolutely right. It is booming. It’s the thing tohave. Right now, some places even strictly do stuff on social media as opposed to a right sight. So thank you for sharing that. I definitely checked out your website. And I love seeing all the stuff that you’ve gotta share and all the images, etcetera. So I hope that our listeners check that out and thank you for sharing. Thank you so much, Kimberly. We’ve had a blast. Will you have a great day and we will talk to you shortly? All right. Great. Thanks. Thanks for tuning into today’s podcast. If you’re not already a member, join the air p A. To take advantage of all the resource is we have to offer. And don’t forget to sign up with do bert dot com. 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