Animal Shelter of the Week: Episode 42 – Humane Society of Pikes Peak Region

Founded in 1949, the Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region is the largest animal welfare group for homeless and abused animals in Southern Colorado. Their mission is to create a compassionate community where animals and people are cared for and valued. Passionate and dedicated staff care for animals in distress, provide medical care for abused and injured animals, reunite lost pets with their owners, find loving homes for homeless animals, and investigate animal cruelty and enforce animal ordinances.


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The Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region was founded in 1949. It is the largest nonprofit animal shelter in Southern Colorado. As an open admission shelter no animal is ever turned away, and because of that, they held nearly 28,000 homeless and abused animals every year. The staff of the HSPPR are dedicated to more than just caring for the animals they take in. They also provide medical care to animals in need, reunite lost pets with their owners, find animals new loving homes, as well as investigating animal cruelty.

Hi Kate, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Of course. I hope your day is going well and thank you for joining me today. Thank you so much for having me. I hope yours is going well as well. Yes, it is. Thank you. Okay, so you are the Community Relations Specialist for the Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region, is that correct? That is correct. Okay, so let’s jump right into it. Can you tell me a little bit about your organization and how you got started there? The Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region was founded originally in 1949, in Colorado Springs. And the goal was really to just save more lives and find homes for homeless animals in the community. Since then, we’ve expanded greatly, and we now have two campuses. One in Colorado Springs and one in Pueblo. And then we perform animal law enforcement for El Paso County, Pueblo County, Douglas County and Centennial County. So pretty expansive area and sudden cholera. Oh wow, that’s great.

Yeah, it’s definitely astounding to see how we’ve grown over the past 70 years. And we actually did just celebrate our 70th anniversary last month. So it’s been exciting. But our mission is really to create a compassionate community where animals and people are cared for and valued. And that’s our overarching, and this mission statement, which can be found on our website and a lot of our social media platforms as well. And in terms of our goal, it’s to put socially conscious sheltering into action by evaluating each animal as an individual and giving it the best possible outcome to save more lives than ever before. Yes, and that’s very important, you know, saving lives is the top priority. Thank you for covering all of that. And congratulations on your 70th year, you know, that’s a huge accomplishment. And the fact that you guys have expanded from one campus to adding another one. That’s great news. Yeah, it’s definitely been an exciting time and over the past two years too, we’ve expanded our physical shelters as well, and so we can house more animals, and we even started up a mobile veterinary clinic. Oh wow. So it’s been lots of growth and lots of community support. I mean, we really couldn’t do it without the love and support of the Colorado Springs and Pueblo Communities.

So I know that you had mentioned that you guys have a lot of love and support from your community. So, aside from them, how is the community in your organization’s area? Does it have specific challenges? How do you guys overtake those if there are? So it definitely has challenges, but there’s also some–a lot of positives as well. So both Pueblo and Colorado Springs are incredibly filled with animal loving advocates. I mean, everywhere you go in both communities—it’s dog friendly this, and cat friendly that. And so it’s definitely a great place to be working in an animal shelter. And this is the one of the greatest things to me about My job is that I’m constantly surrounded by volunteers, donors, employees and community members who would go to astounding lengths to be a voice for these voiceless animals. At the same time, they’re both communities also have areas that are kind of more impoverished and struck by financial hardship. And so a lot of the times this leads to improper medical care, which, of course, then leads to things like unplanned litters, and disease, and overpopulation and all of these factors then drive more animals into our shelter. And that doesn’t even kind of touch on the fact that people who can’t necessarily afford to fix their fences, or microchip their pets, or license them, and things like that so those are one of the challenges that we really see in our communities.

Here at HSPPR, we do believe that animals can still be provided loving homes even if their owner struggle financially. We see animals as an extension of the families of that family member, and we don’t believe in what’s sometimes called the poverty penalty, right? So you have animals, you’re having heard ship taking care of them different things like that. We don’t feel that you should always be penalized for such things because it is a family member. And so that’s really why we started the Wellness Wagon our Mobile Veterinary Clinic, and we’re bringing this wagon’s to areas in most need of low cost veterinarian care. So we’re offering low cost spacys, neuters, and vaccines, and this helps us keep the pets healthy, safe and out of the shelter and in their homes. That’s awesome.

So you mentioned the Wellness Wagon and is this something that you guys do on a daily basis? Is there certain days that you guys offer services through that? Do you guys go to that community specifically? We actually just rolled it out a couple months ago. Thanks to a wonderful grant from the Petco Foundation that we are eternally grateful for. But we are spending two days in Colorado Springs and two days in Pueblo per week in areas that we like to call veterinary desert. Okay. So areas where there aren’t local veterinarians, and you have to travel more, and so you don’t have access to that kind of care. If you want to see our specific events and lay out of events, it kind of changes on a weekly basis just based on what’s going on in the community. You can go to our website and that has the layout of all of our events. But primarily, right now we’re rolling out our vaccination clinics. Twice a week we go out to Colorado Springs, and twice a week in Pueblo, and then once a month, as of right now, we’re doing low cost spay and neuters in both communities.

Although we do have two campuses and are serving two different communities, we do think of ourselves as one large, cohesive organization because we don’t want Pueblo, for example, which is a smaller community. To miss out on resources that Colorado Springs has because it’s a larger community. So by really making it one larger umbrella we can share, the resources and bring things like the mobile unit, and volunteers in different services, like our veterinary care across both communities equally. When you were talking about it, that’s one thing that kind of stood out to me was even though that you have the two separate campuses, it seemed like you guys had one unit, which is great because, like you said, Pueblo may not be as big as Colorado Springs, but that’s no excuse to kind of limit them or what they can do.

So I know that you mentioned that you guys have the Wellness Wagon, and that’s sort of like a program that you guys offer. Do you have any other programs? I noticed a few on the website. I noticed that you guys have some really cool, intriguing programs that stood out. We really do, and the big question is where to start with this question. Yes. We recently in the past couple of years have really worked to improve our behavior program. So in each campus location, we have a certified professional dog trainer who is knowledge assess, meaning that they had to do the research and pass a test and make sure that they really know what they’re talking about, if you will. And they really work with dogs to modify their behavior and make sure that they’re having things like good kennel presentation so that you know, when people are walking by the kennels and trying to pick out a dog to visit with, they’re not just looked over because they might be a little bit more excitable, and bark more, and things like that. And things like having what we like to call four on the floor. So not jumping all over people when you’re visiting with them. Different things like that, because the ultimate goal here is that when an animal leaves the shelter, we don’t want to see it back in the shelter. Yes. Behavior program really helps to make sure that these animals are successful when they move into their new homes. That’s good.

Now, does every dog that comes into your guys’ care kind of get that same training? So it really depends on the animal. Every dog that comes in is evaluated based through customer service, and every single person who handles that dog does put in behavior notes into our database and then, based on what we’re seeing, we’ll determine whether or not and needs a full behavior evaluation. So, for example, your stereotypical golden retriever most likely doesn’t need a behavior evaluation just because of the breed and the nature of that type of dog. Okay. However, if it comes in from an owner and the owner said that they were experiencing some type of behavior issue with it in the home, then we would put it through our more formal behavior evaluation process. But for example, you know we could get in a Chihuahua, which doesn’t seem like, you know, a very intimidating animal who’s a bit yappy or a little feisty, if you will. And so that dog will be treated just like any other in our behavior program and really taught to be a little bit more calm, have four on the floor, have our kennel presentation, and all those good things because we aren’t biased by a breed or anything like that. We just want every single animal to find a successful home.

So you guys obviously clearly don’t have any grade restrictions or anything of that nature? Correct, and we do not support any breed specific legislation as well. Like I said with a socially conscious sheltering, we evaluate every single animal as an individual and determine its availability and safety for adoption, based on what we’re seeing in that specific animal. It has no bearing on breed or anything else like that. We think every animal could make a loving pet. And that’s very true, I agree with you 100%, because a lot of people, I mean in my area, specifically, a lot of people are very, “well, we’re looking for this type of breed,” and that’s still hard cause, especially sometimes I’ve noticed the shelters they’ll actually put like breeds. They’ll have like a German shepherd of the day or something like that. It’s hard because I, in my eyes, I’m like, “well, there’s other dogs there, right?” So I think it’s great to not put a label, I guess you could say, on your pets because the breed really doesn’t matter, right? Right, exactly.

And we would love to move forward in a way that where we didn’t have to specifically labeled by breed. But the fact of the matter is people are looking for this breeds to adopt, and it also plays into our lost and found database. So when you’re searching through our system for your lost German Shepherd, you know if we have it in there as a Pit bull, you are not gonna find it. So we have to be able to still try and label them, as correctly as we can, you know, we are a nonprofit. It’s not like we can up in DNA test everything I get through our doors. So a lot of the times, you know, we see a beautiful, black haired, short coat, little puppy and say, you know, “we think this is a lab.” We like to say, “we’re calling this a lab,” because like I said, we’re not DNA testing these animals. Yes. However, based on what we know about the breed, this is what we’re seeing.

But we do have a lot of other programs. One was the Wellness Wagon, which I know that we touched on our mobile veterinary unit. But we also have veterinary services in both of our shelters that are open to the public or low cost spay and neuters, and vaccinations as well. And then one of my favorite programs is our TNR program or trap, neuter, return. And it’s a free program that allows community cat colony managers, which are volunteers with our humane society, to humanely trap cats in their neighborhood, bring them to us where will spay, neuter and vaccinate them. And then we’ll return them to the community at no charge, as long as we’re seeing that the cat is thriving. So it’s healthy, you know, it’s at a good weight, it’s not riddled with disease, or anything like that. And so this helps to really prevent disease and overpopulation in these communities to keep population under control and make sure that they’re still thriving and healthy. And I think a common misconception is that feral cats could be pets, but we like to compare them or to, maybe the raccoons of your neighborhood. They are outside, outdoor animals, and they don’t want to play with you. And in fact, trying to play with them might put you at risk. So that’s why we help, you know, these cat colony managers get these safe and humane traps, bring them in and, you know, make sure that they’re not spreading Rabies and different things like that.

Of our other programs, there were two more I wanted to touch on, and one was our ALE program, our Animal Law Enforcement. So we do provide animal law enforcement in all the communities we serve, which allows us to investigate in charge cases of animal cruelty and neglect, bring lost pets safely into our shelter until they can be reunited with their families, and then also protect the community from aggressive and dangerous animals as well. So our animal law enforcement team is quite extensive and they really helped to, you know, make sure everyone in our community is healthy, safe, and happy.

And then finally, we have a very extensive volunteer program. Looking into this, since the volunteer program started here a few years back about 30 years ago, we have volunteers have saved us over $6.5 million. Oh wow. Yes, and we actually just had a large event called Platinum Paws Volunteers, which celebrated quite a few of our volunteers who have reached over 1,000 hours of service for us and these air volunteers from all walks of life, they could be helping in numerous different ways, whether it’s volunteering at our summer day camp programs with children, and are helping to clean the kennels, or helping to walk the dogs, or even fostering the newborn kittens in their own home. You know, if you like animals, we will definitely have a way for you to help.

Do you guys have a lot of volunteers that do the fostering? Yes we do, I–actually a lot of our employees foster as well as also volunteers. And you know, foster is one of our biggest programs because we get so many different kittens and puppies and things in like that. And it’s a fun way to kind of scratch that itch to play with a puppy for a little while without necessarily taking on, you know, the 15-20 year commitment of the dog. Exactly.

One of the programs that I kinda wanted to jump in and ask you about was the Camp, Whiskers & Wags, that called to me a little bit because it is all about like the kids and everything, and, you know, they are our future. Yes. So, I think it’s important that they’re a part of something. So I thought it was great when I saw that. Can you tell me a little bit about that Camp, Whiskers & Wags is a week-long summer program, and it goes all summer long. So you can sign up for different weeks in the summer to attend. But it’s broken down by age group as well. And really, the goal is to teach empathy towards animals, so you can learn about animal handling. You can learn about different types of animals, but really, once you start to get that compassion and empathy piece, it really goes a long way because it’s something that goes into preventing future animal abuse. But also we try to take it and apply it on a larger scale too, so think about the different breed biases that are in our society. And if you start teaching kids, you cannot treat one Pit bull based on the actions of another. That can be directly applied to how we treat in respect, others, as humans as well. So I think that’s a really great way that we have of approaching those kind of touchy subjects and teaching love, empathy, and compassion in our community. And so that’s one of the things I really like.

And then, as our Youth Education Manager just put it so gently to me, the other day. Like I said, we have a lot of areas that’s a little bit more impoverished, or there’s some gang issues as well. There are a lot of kids in our community who have never known a nice dog. And when you take a step back and think about that, that is just so heartbreaking because they’re such a part of our daily lives, and our families in so many different ways. And so if this gives them an opportunity to learn that animals can be nice, and can be companions, and can be loving, and that we need to treat them with that type of respect as well. There are people out there, they don’t have that same mentality. It’s hard.

So what would you say is the challenges for your organization? There’s a few. So one of our primary challenge is the emphasis on save rates, so lives saved. As an open admission shelter that also conducts all of the animal law enforcement, it’s really important to know that: a) we never turn away an animal and need; and b) that also means that we get the most aggressive and most severe medical cases that our community sees. And so where other organizations might be able to more hand pick the animals that can come into their shelter. It’s a lot easier to reach higher numbers of lives saved rates. But if an animal is gravely ill, we don’t want to prolong that suffering. And if it’s an unsafe adoption candidate, we don’t want it to sit alone in a kennel for longer than it has to, because that’s not a good quality of life. So we, you know, we really take socially conscious sheltering and put it in action in this way because we look at the needs of each individual animal, and then to determine what the best possible solution is.

And these can include, you know, adoption, medical treatment, the trap, neuter, return, behavior modification, foster care, transfer to another organization that might have a stronger behavior program or, in some cases, humane euthanasia. But we think that by working towards an arbitrary save rate, it’s unintentionally results in a lot of undue suffering for an animal. So say, they want you to reach in 90% live release rate, which is definitely a great cause and a great goal. But at what cost? You know, is an animal that’s really suffering greatly from medical and in a lot of pain, having to stay alive longer than it needs to? Or is an animal who is incredibly unsafe for adoption going to be released, back out into the community and pose a risk to the people that we started? So those are the kind of things that we have to consider when we think about the use things, and so we really don’t like to work towards an arbitrary number. That kind of the no-kill movement has really pushed forward in Colorado. Yeah, and those were some tough decisions, you know, that need to be made.

One of the challenges we’re really kind of facing, is cat overpopulation specifically in Pueblo. There’s a lot of feral cats that just kind of keep reproducing. So what we’ve been doing is targeting zip codes where we hear the most complaints about the cat population and bringing the Wellness Wagon to those zip codes to be able to do our Trap, Neuter, Return Program there. And on the flip side of that too, pet problems are often people problems, too. So one of the challenges that we often see is people not knowing what to do, or where to turn, or how to help. And so we’re trying to encourage the community to really understand that the pet problem is everyone’s business. Animals in our community is our community problem. And so if you’re seeing someone with a broken fence, you know, help your neighbor fix it so that they don’t necessarily have to give up their dog. Or, if you’re seeing a lot of cats join our Trap, Neuter, Return Program. It’s really simple. And we make it as easy as possible for you. Or you know, if you’re seeing a lot of intact animals, tell your friends about our Wellness Wagon and our Mobile Veterinary Clinic. You know the best way to prevent homeless pets is to prevent these unplanned litters, disease, and runaways.

So I know that you mentioned in there, too, that you guys work with other organizations as well. If need be? Oh yes, transfer partners are the bread and butter of what makes us successful. You know, over the past summer, we had a hoarding case where we have to take in 135 cats, about 100 of which needed to be treated for ringworm. And if you know anything about ringworm, it’s a fungus that produces spores that can then be contagious in the air. So we had to sulfur lime dip each cat at least twice, then grow cultures to see if they’re testing positive for a ringworm, which takes a couple of weeks. In the meantime, everyone who comes into contact with these cats needs to be in personal protective equipment. So the giant marshmallow suits. But the toll that this took on us was tens of thousands of dollars, and extreme amounts of time, and stress on our providers, and our animal care staff.

And luckily, we have a community animal response team, which is part of our volunteer network as well. That came in to help out a lot, but if it weren’t for our transfer partners, we don’t know what we would have done. They helped us transfer out over 200 cats out of our building to make room for these more sick cats and provide us with the time, space, and resources to treat them physically. I mean, we actually just put the last ones of this batch up for adoption and so we’re extremely excited. Not only that, we’re able to take these cats, which a lot were in pretty grave condition and rehabilitate them, but that you’re getting adopted into loving homes. And it’s all really, thanks to a lot of our transfer partners.

I love that you shared about the transfer those cats and saving them and getting them ready for adoption and taking care of them. Would you say that that is one of the memorable stories that you have? Or do you mind sharing one with us? Sure, my most memorable story is actually how I came to adopt my own dog, Frank. He was brought into our Pueblo shelter for Animal Law Enforcement after multiple reports came in of a dog being thrown from a car. Oh, my God. You know, so we get this little guy in, and by little, I do not mean little—he’s a giant Great Dane, Pit bull mix. Oh wow! Little, by no means, but we get him in, and at the time he was much littler than he should have been. And he can’t really put any weight on one of his hind limbs. He’s lost most of his hair from a severe case of mange, and a skin infection that went untreated for a very long time. And so instantly I just kind of connected with this dog. I couldn’t believe how much love and affection he had for people, despite what people had done to him. You know, I do a lot of our social media for the Humane Society, and so one of the perks of my job is I can do a lot from my phone, so I would do a lot of work from his kennel on my phone while he just kind of laid on my lap while he waited surgery. And in that time I was able to fund raise on Facebook for him.

And I’m so grateful for the community because we raised over $4,000 for his care, and that got him a new hip, which he’s doing wonderfully now. He has all of his hair back, his mange just completely gone through me, fostering him and going through a lot of the physical therapy. And he is just out here living his best life with his sister Fiona, so much so that he was able to stand on his hind legs just the other night to steal a pork tenderloin off my kitchen table.  Oh no! So he is definitely fully recovered and back to normal puppy behavior, which is what I love to see. That it’s so amazing. This is my favorite question. But I actually because, you know, it just sits there, you know, from the start, you just “aww,” and you just get that sad emotion and the more, you know, you build up to it and how he’s doing so much better now. And what really pulled me was that you were able to work from your phone, and you still stayed with him, while he was in his kennel. And I love that story. Thank you so much.

So, like, I know that you, you know, you’ve talked a lot about adoption and animals going into loving homes. Do you guys have, like, an adoption process that you guys go through to ensure that the pet is going to a good home? We have the unique advantage of providing Animal Law Enforcement in the communities that we serve. Yes. So every time someone comes in to our shelter, they meet with a pet matchmaker. So we go ahead and explain any of the nuances of the pet that they’re looking to adopt, whether it be a dog that’s very excitable, or a cat that has a tendency to be aroused really quickly. We sit them down, make sure that they’re going to be a fit with the home, and then we get their information and we run it through our database, because again we provide Animal Law Enforcement. To see if they’ve ever, you know, been subject to any type of animal cruelty, or anything like that, or have a prior history of owning a lot of dangerous dogs, different things like that, so that we can really do a thorough check to make sure that this animal is going to an estate home. However, if they get the animal home and realize it’s not a fit, we do encourage them to bring it back, you know, we’re a no judgment zone. We want to find animals homes that are best suited for them, when where they can live as happy as possible. So if you need to bring an animal back, we completely understand. A lot of times, you know, people have small children, or a cat, or the dog doesn’t get along, or things like that. There are so many different reasons for giving up an animal that we really try to take any type of judgment out of that.

I mean, just a couple weeks ago, someone brings some pets in because they had to cross the country to get medical care, and different things like that. And not only would that be hard on the cat, but also it’s a financial burden to take on medical care for yourself, let alone take care of another creature in that time. Yes. So we just want to make it clear that we’re a community resource, and a safe haven for these animals, and that it’s got to be such and gut wrenching, difficult decision to surrender an animal. But that’s why we’re here and the average pit in our shelters are adopted within three days of becoming available for adoption. So we have a lot of community support, a lot of people looking to adopt, so don’t think that your animal’s gonna come into our shelter, and just be waiting around for Mom’s. They’re different things like that because it’s really not the case. That’s great to hear, because that’s not always the case, you know.

So does your organization have any future goals? Or what’s your vision, like for your organization in the future? Our goal will always be to be able to save more lives than ever before. If there’s really anything I know to be true about the Humane Society of Pikes Peak Region or HSPPR, is that change is constant. We’re always working towards new ways to save more lives than ever before. With that being said, you know, we’re recently back into our Pueblo shelter, and so we’re kind of getting things restarted. But our volunteer program is expected to be up and running again within the first quarter of the new year. So any people that are wanting to get involved, we’d love to have you because, you know, the more volunteers we have, the more lives we can save. And then we also have plans to have our Wellness Wagon out in Colorado Springs and in Pueblo twice a week for each, but offering more of those low cost spay and neuters, and more events, and being able to target areas more directly, and get the word out so that it’s being utilized the best of its ability. We hope that that works out for you because it seems like you guys are on the right track and getting it up and running the way you guys envision it to be running.

Do you guys have any future plans for possibly opening up any more campuses? Not at this time. We are primarily serving the Pikes Peak Region, but we do love being in Pueblo, and we love our Colorado Springs locations. But in the meantime, we’re really just working to kind of maintain our facilities and always expand. And again, if that means like better kennels or expanding our current facilities, different things like that, those are always things that we’re looking at. Right now, we don’t have any concrete plans for a solid expansion into any other communities.

So like if I’m an adopter, or anybody wants to get in contact with the organization, whether it be volunteering, how would somebody go about doing that? So you could go to a, which is our website. You could visit us on Facebook, Humane Society of Pikes Peak Region. Instagram and Twitter, it’s Humane Society Pikes Peak. Our Colorado Springs phone number is 719-473-1741. Our Pueblo phone number is 719-544-3005. And our Animal Law Enforcement phone number is 719-302-8798. That’s great information to share because people sometimes need that little push of “hey, this is how you can get in contact with us.”

So if I wanted to adopt a pet from either the Colorado Springs or the Pueblo location, can I fill out an application? Or how does that work for online? All adoptions need to take place in person, but you can check out all of our available animals at and then our locations are at 610 Abbott Lane in Colorado Springs and 4600 Eagle Ridge Place in Pueblo. Okay.

So is there anything else you’d like to share with us before we wrap things up? Primarily just that we’re so grateful to be in the communities that we serve and that we really couldn’t do all that we do without their support and help. And that every year in September, we host Pawtoberfest, which is a dog friendly craft year festival, and dog walk event. It’s really the only one of its kind in southern Colorado. And all of the profits go to support our mission to save more animal lives. So be on the lookout for it in 2020 because it’s gonna be a barkin’ good time. That sounds awesome. Sounds like so much fun.

And I also noticed that you guys had an event coming up tomorrow, actually, the Bark & Barre? Yes, we do have a Bark & Barre in our Colorado Springs location, where you can do Barre Classes with your dog, and all of the proceeds there will also go to the Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region, and our care for our animals. So do you guys do events often? We do, during the summer. We have a lot of what we call our Happy Tails Happy Hours, and so we partner with a lot of local breweries, restaurants and bars, and so that 10% of every purchase, the profits go back to our Humane Society. And that’s a lot of fun. In Colorado Springs in the spring, we have what’s called the Fur Ball and it’s in black tie event with all of, like, silent auctions, and dancing, and great dinner, and music, and fun and, all proceeds again go to benefit us. And then in Pueblo in the fall, we have what’s called the Whisker Ball, and it’s a black tie event as well. Very similar to the Fur Ball, but the fun thing about the Pueblo one is that it’s actually dog friendly. So you can bring your dog to a black tie event. So it’s a blast.

Do you guys post photos about it like how it went? Have do you guys go about doing that? For every event, we’ll have a Facebook event on our Facebook page, and we’ll also put it on our website when it’s coming up. And then we’ll document a lot throughout the night, and for at the event, and we’ll post a recap of funds raised the following day. Or, you know, if it’s on a Saturday, probably the following business day, if you will, just to say thank you so much to all of our supporters because, like I said, you know, so much of our funding comes from donors in these types of events, and we really couldn’t do what we do without the support and participation from the community. That’s the goal of them, right? Is for everybody to have fun, but also help the shelter in the same aspect. Exactly.

And just thinking on this page of anything to add. So we’re doing a campaign with Subaru here in Colorado Springs. If you go to Heuberger Subaru, any time in the month of November and December, and you purchase a car, $300 gets to go to a nonprofit organization of your choice from a list that they have. But we are on that list. And so if you are looking to, kind of, give back and purchase a car, this is kind of the best way to do it, because it’s not only, do you get to have the vehicle of your dreams, but you also get to donate to a good cause, in the meantime. Yes, and thank you for sharing that because, you know, I would hope her audience would take advantage of that if they’re in your area, because it is so important to donate to you guys. So thank you for pointing that out. I hope that is successful for you guys. That’s a cool thing to have. Yeah, we’re really excited and really grateful for Subaru for this opportunity. They even gave us some super chew out barks. And they are Subaru-Outback-looking dog toys, so they’re a lot of fun. Oh wow! They’re adorable. How cute! Okay.

Alright Kate, well I know I’ve had you on for a little while. If there’s anything else that you’d like to share, I’d love to hear it. I think we’re in good shape. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Of course Kate, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us and giving us a little bit more insight on your organization, and how you guys are working with your community. I think it’s great what you guys were doing. I truly do. Thank you. I really appreciate that. And it’s been such a pleasure talking with you and listening to your other podcasts as well. It’s a really great platform to discuss all the issues that face the animal welfare industry, and understanding how other organizations are working to overcome them. Because I think the key to success is working together. Exactly. And that’s–that’s our hopes for this, is we hope that other organizations can take what they’ve learned from, like, your organization and the stuff that you shared. We hope that that can help another organization on their journey as well. Yes, as do we. So thank you.

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