Animal Rescue of the Week: Episode 50 – Knine Rescue Inc

Knine Rescue Inc is a small non-profit 501(c)3 organization, dedicated to animal care and protection. They assist shelters and other rescues (both in their local community and beyond) by finding loving forever homes for neglected, abandoned and homeless animals. Their goal is to promote responsible animal ownership by educating the wider public on the importance of spay/neuter, positive training and pet health care.

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The Knine Rescue Inc., is a small nonprofit organization dedicated to animal care and protection. They assist shelters and other rescues both in their local community and beyond, by finding loving forever homes for neglected, abandoned and homeless animals. Their goal is to promote responsible animal ownership by educating the wider public on the importance of spay and neuter, positive training, and pet healthcare.

Hi, Amy. Welcome to the show. Thank you for joining me today. Thank you for having me. Of course. So I just kind of want to take a minute to kind of talk about you a little bit. You are actually a volunteer at the Knine Rescue in Maryland, is that correct? That is correct. I was a business person for many years. I had my own company living a very different kind of life, fast paced, in the corporate world. And a few years ago I sold my business, and that has allowed me to do what I’ve always wanted to do, which was work with animals and specifically work with rescuing animals. So it’s a very different life now, for me, but it’s really been a dream come true. It’s what I’ve always wanted to do, ever since I was a kid, I’ve always wanted to work with dogs. Oh, that’s awesome. You’re absolutely right that you come from this business life, where it’s super busy, and now you get to kind of work with animals and rescue them. And I find that awesome that you’ve always wanted to do that. And you eventually found your way to putting you on the role that you’re in today. So that’s pretty cool.

Right, and it has helped me to have a business background, I think one of the challenges that a lot of rescues face, is that we obviously typically have primarily volunteers. Many rescues don’t have any paid staff, but it still needs to be a positive experience for people interacting with the rescue. In other words, they need to get a timely response that they’re interested in the dog, or if they want a foster, or have questions. And so from that perspective, I think having a business has helped me run the rescue in a similar fashion, where people get to respond quickly and it’s a little more organized, I think, and maybe a little tighter, as a result. So it’s actually been a good thing to have that experience. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like you know, you’ve got that great mindset when people reach out to you guys, you know that it’s imperative to kind of get back to them to kind of keep your organization on that good note and up and running, right? So a lot of rescues lose people and we have certainly been guilty of this, as well, but we lose people by not responding in a timely manner, people will see a dog, maybe on a Facebook page, or website, and they’re interested and they want to learn more. They don’t always get a response quickly, and so then what happens is they will often just go somewhere else. Now we hope that they will go to another rescue, but it does happen, where people will get frustrated with the rescue processes and the fact that it often moves slowly, or can be unpredictable in terms of getting response. And sometimes they’ll end up going to a breeder, or a pet store, or engaging in the very behavior that we are trying to curtail.

So it’s really in our best interest to respond quickly, capitalize on that interest and try to make sure that we get the person to adopt a rescue versus going down some other avenue. That might be a little faster, but maybe not ultimately the best thing. It does take time, and it’s a timely process. But you guys do it with the animal’s best interest at heart. So I find it great that you shared that with us right off the bat. I mean, it’s unfortunate, but it’s the truth, and you’re laying it out there for everybody. That’s awesome. Yeah, I mean it’s definitely the truth. And I’ve had so many people over the years tell me that they had a bad experience with a rescue that no one got back to them, that kind of thing. We have an amazing foster, one of many in our network, and she said that she tried for months to volunteer with different rescues, and she kept submitting her information, and no one was getting back to her. Oh wow. And you know I don’t mean it, so much as a criticism, because, of course, most of us are volunteers. Many of us have other jobs, families, all that. But we are missing opportunities if we don’t respond in a timely way. So we were able to bring this foster on board, and she’s been amazing. And I thought, “wow, what a shame,” that no one was kind of giving her this opportunity. So a lot of it really, is about follow up and follow through. And I think that’s one thing that we—I’d like to think, that’s one thing we do well and it may be because some of us do have a business background and we’re aware of the fact that even though it’s a nonprofit, it’s still in many ways a business.

So can you share with me a little bit about the Knine Rescue organization and kind of what your goals and your purpose is over there? We are based in the D.C. Metro area. So we service the suburbs of Maryland, Virginia, Northern Virginia, and the nation’s capital, which is a great areas of–obviously highly populated area. In some cases an affluent area, which is a sad truth. Dogs tend to have a better chance of getting adopted if it’s an area, where there is more disposable income. So most of the dogs that we get are from areas in rural West Virginia and Virginia. We have a lot of context in those areas, basically boots on the ground, and they will go out into the communities. And these are often very poor communities. A lot of them have been hit hard by the opioid crisis. Unfortunate, because if you are spending money on a drug habit, you’re not necessarily gonna be able to take care of an animal. That’s sort of a luxury item, so to speak. And unfortunately, those are often casualties of the drug epidemics that we’re seeing in a lot of these poor areas. So we have people in those areas who will reach out to us and say, could be anything from “we found a pregnant mom on a mountain in West Virginia,” you know, “can you take her?” “We found a dog wandering. It’s been living in a drug house. Can you take this? Dog?” or a dog could have been dumped at overcrowded shelters. These poor areas tend not to have the resources that we do in the more affluent in areas.

So there are space issues, and a lot of these dogs just end up being scheduled for being euthanized simply due to space. And so we take as many as we can, depending on our foster availability. None of us–no rescue could do anything without fosters, which is why we placed such a high premium on those critical people and try to treat them like the amazing folks that they are. They are royalty for us, for sure. So depending on how many fosters we have available, that tells us how many dogs we can take, and then we arrange transport. We have people, amazing people who will generally drive dogs from these areas, could be anywhere from 3 to 5 each way. Pick up a bunch of dogs, bring them us, we get them vetted, we get them spayed or neutered, and then we send them to their foster homes and get them adopted from there. From what you just said, you guys were clearly foster-based. Yes, we are foster-based. Last year we gave about 250 dogs, and it was all done without benefit of a facility. That was all through our foster network, which I’m really proud of that fact. And I think that one thing that’s also really important is being really responsive to fosters and making sure that they feel supported, that they get whatever they need. And it’s not just supported in terms of supplies or, you know, those sort of material things, but being supported emotionally. If, for example, someone is fostering a bunch of puppies or a mom and puppies, it’s exhausting. And so we check in with them all the time and stop by to see them, and make sure that they are still enjoying the process, you know, do they need a break? That kind of thing.

So we do–this is another mistake, I think some rescues make, is focusing so much on the animals but forgetting the people and forgetting the human component that makes it all possible. So, yeah, we’re really proud of our foster network. I think we have one of the best in the area. You’re absolutely right not having a facility. I mean, that takes a good, strong group of people and being a foster, it has so many benefits, but it’s also hard, like emotionally. I mean, you grow a bond with these animals, and then they get adopted and you know they’re going to good loving homes. But that’s still rough on the foster. And, you know, I think it’s awesome that you guys take that extra time to focus on, you know, the people that are actually dedicating their time to these animals in your organization. Well, it’s interesting.

When I first started doing rescue work, I was not yet affiliated with Knine Rescue or any particular rescue. I was just fostering for a couple different local groups. And one of my early rescues was a mother and 11 puppies. Oh my goodness. And it was a huge amount of work way more than I really was aware of. But no one really checked in on me. I felt very alone going through that process, and that was a really profound experience for me. And when I joined up with the Knine folks several years ago. That was one thing that I said was going to be very important to me if I was to come on board. And I am also the Foster Coordinator. I said that we need to make sure that the foster’s, number one feel appreciated. We can never take them for granted. We always need to make sure that they know how grateful we are, because again, we literally can’t do anything without them. When we get calls to take these dogs, where will we put them if we don’t have good foster homes? So we need to make sure people know that they’re doing good work, that they’re appreciated. And then again, just, you know, checking in with them and we really get to know them, and we get to know their families. And I consider most of the fosters now, personal friends, because we really have developed these bonds and we go through a lot together. You know, there are some dogs that fosters will get more attached to than others, and sometimes those goodbyes are really difficult. And you know, we are there for them through those times as well, and acknowledge you know, just the emotional components of this and all of that. So, yeah, I think we give a lot of support and the fact that our fosters always seem to do it again, and again. I think that’s really the best evidence right there—is we’ve made it an enjoyable process.

And another thing that I think we do well is, we move the adoption process along as quickly as we can. It kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier. Sometimes people will submit an application for a dog, and then they just won’t hear anything for weeks or a month, and they don’t know what the status is. So not only might we lose that person as a potential adopter, but now we’re kind of burning out the fosters. So my theory is that if we have good people who meet our criteria and want to adopt, we need to be in touch with them as quickly as possible, give them update and keep the process moving because it benefits everyone in the whole system. We get the dog adopted more quickly, which means it’s an easier adjustment for the dog not having to live with who they’ve been, you know, for months on end. The fosters don’t feel like they’ve been pushed to their limits. And then the adopters are happy because they’ve had someone respond in a timely manner. So that’s something that we really take seriously. And so our foster’s usually end up having the dogs for maybe a week or two, but not months and months at a time, which I know, in some cases that happens and everyone’s well, we do have a dog that is harder to place than others, but we do try to move them quickly again, following our protocol and doing our home business and due diligence and all of that. But we try to move quickly so that again, everyone sort of ends the experience on a positive note versus feeling like this has been going on forever.

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That 1 to 2 weeks of an average stay, that’s a good number. I mean, they’re not staying there too long. I mean, it seems like you know, you guys have a good process and a good flow. So what do you guys do to kind of, get the word out about the dogs that you have for adoption? Do you guys do adoption events or are you pretty active on social media about it? Can you kind of share with me how you guys do that? Sure, we do adoption events when we can, we don’t do a ton of them. We are very active on social media. I think that’s probably one of our biggest strengths. We have a pretty good following with social Media. I think it’s really important to–and this again comes from a business perspective. It’s very important to stay updated. You don’t wanna have, you know, weeks go by, where you haven’t posted anything. If you’re going to have the social media channels, they need to be up to date. And if you can’t maintain them, then you probably shouldn’t have them because I think it looks bad for business or any organization, if things are out of date, or if you go to a website and the information is not current. I just think all of that needs to be kept up to date. So we’re very good about that.

I think really one of the things that has been most successful for us is that we take videos with the dogs, and we talk about the dog, you know, while the dog is there with us. I’m often the person who does them. We show the dog, we really talk about the personal qualities of the dog, and we give people a chance to see the dog in action, so to speak. And I feel like the videos helped a lot. We also encourage people to share. We are always telling people it’s okay if you can’t foster, or if you are not looking to adopt, or you can’t make a donation to the rescue, you can still help us in this critical way. Just share this information, put this post on your social media, or send it out to your friends, that kind of thing. We get a ton of dogs adopted from friends of friends, so that’s definitely been a big part of our success. And I think just networking in the community we are on, all of the community list serves and the nextdoor app, all of those community based communication avenues where we can just talk about the dogs that we have currently.

But we also, and this is another thing that I think is really important, not just with social media, but with just communicating with the community, in general, is we’re not always asking people for something. We often post things that are just ‘thank you’. Thank you so much for supporting Knine Rescue, for helping us grow for getting the word out. So that people don’t feel like they’re constantly being sort of sold to, but that there’s also messages that are just a thank you with no strings attached. We’re not asking you for anything with this message. We’re just saying thank you, or we’ll often post things that are just funny or just interesting, you know, helpful tip about your dog, you know, care for your dog, that kind of thing. So it’s not just a barrage of here’s more dogs that we need your help with. So we try to create a much more positive vibe and a community-feel, and we always post updates about, you know, dogs who we’ll say, “Oh, do you guys remember this dog? Well, this is what it looks like now,” you know that kind of thing. We involve the community in different little–you know, we’ll have a dog and then we’ll get the dog DNA tested down the road, and we’ll say, “what do you guys think this dog is?” We’ll involve people, so they feel like they’re part of the community. And I think that’s been really critical in getting people to care about Knine, and then want to tell their friends about it, and all of that.

So, yeah, I think just sending out a more positive message, not this kind of depressing, because it is depressing. I mean, we are in depressing situations all the time with these dogs. We see them in terrible conditions. It’s never ending. It’s a relentless supply of animals, you know, and the overpopulation issue is real. But I don’t know if people really respond when they’re just hit again, and again, and again with those sort of dire negative messages. I feel like we’ve had more success keeping it just lighter and again more positive. Yeah, and it definitely works out because it just goes to show in not just animal abuse, but crime In general, people know that those things are out there. They know all of this stuff. But a lot of people don’t want to see it all the time, you know. Exactly. And I see the point to that, it definitely, it pulls on the heartstrings, and it’s definitely hard, but it also–It’s a great emotional feeling when you know you see an animal that’s super happy and they’re being loved on, you know, it just seems like you’re in tune with your community, and in tune with kind of what works and keeping it fun and keep it engaging. And everybody just has that luxury now that they’re able to do that, be it social media. Everybody has, and it’s a super big thing.

So I’m kind of curious. Do you guys have any programs or anything that you guys offer to your community? So we have a few things. We do a kid’s club, K-9 Kids Club. One of the things we hear a lot, and I can relate to this with my own kids, is there are so many kids who want to be around animals. But there are not a lot of opportunities for that. You can’t go and work in a shelter unless you are over probably 18. I’m not sure what the age restriction is, but younger kids just they don’t have very many opportunities. But we know that a lot of kids–and I was like this is a kid, and my own kids were like this. They love to help with animals. And so we have a kids club that’s like, college students, and they do different projects and, you know, make toys for the dogs and things like that. And then we always bring dogs for the kids to interact with. Obviously, dogs that are appropriate to be interacting with kids for safety reasons. But, you know, we make sure it’s a safe environment, but we give kids a chance to be involved in the rescue, and I think they really appreciate that. And kids will often come and they’ll help different fosters cleanup after puppies or something. It’s good for kids to see the reality of owning a dog.

And a lot of the kids who are part of the club don’t have dogs, you know, in some cases, it’s because the parents aren’t sure that they are ready for it. So we feel like it’s good for them to see what it’s like to care for a dog, and that it’s not always just fun and running around. But there’s chores you need to do that are less pleasant, you know. So we have kids who come in, and they clean up, and they have to do kind of the grunt work. So I think that’s one way that we’ve also helped, you know, just kind of plant some seeds in the community with kids, to consider getting a dog from a rescue. And in our area, the schools offer student service learning hours. All kids in the public schools have to get a certain number of service hours. And so we are an approved partner for that. So kids can earn service hours by helping the rescue. And, for example, we have some kids who run our Instagram, and it’s a great way for them to feel empowered, and to use their interest in social media, and their skills—let’s face it, they’re better at it than I am. So we give them that opportunity and it really makes them feel important, you know, like I’m running this important vehicle for the rescue. So things like that.

We do education for the community. Obviously, we’re big with the spay and neuter. We have some trainers who are volunteers and they do videos. And again, these are not just for people who have adopted from us, but just people, in general. Training videos to address the most common questions they’re asked. Our thought is that if we can help people have positive experiences with their dog, they’re less likely to return them. Again, whether or not they got them from us. It’s not relevant. We just want dogs to be able to stay with their families. And sometimes there are behavior issues, the dogs will end up and shelter. So we try to offer training help. And our trainers will often go out and meet with people. And what’s really cool about that, is that they will go and they have gone many times and met with people who didn’t even adopt from us. Oh wow. But just are having difficulty with their dog. And we do that, again because it’s not really about Knine. It’s about the larger issue, and we certainly understand that we’re part of a community.

We support all the other rescues, you know, we will cross post if someone has a dog that they’re having trouble placing, you know. We will post that dog or we will help find fosters for another rescue. If they can’t, you know, place the dog that they want to help that kind of thing. So it’s not just about you know what’s gonna benefit us, but really about the bigger picture. So we are out in the community a lot. We also do, and I’m involved in this personally–we do mental health at some of the local high schools. We will go in with some of our rescue dogs, and they will set them up in an area where kids have a choice. Obviously, we don’t want to force people to interact with dogs. Not everybody likes them, or comfortable, or some people are allergic. But we offer a choice if people want to come in. If the students or staff want to come in during their lunch break, or in any other free period, and just sit with the dogs, and interact with the dogs. And it’s incredibly powerful to bring dogs into the schools, it just changes the whole entire mood. And we do a lot of that, just talking about the mental health benefit of animals in general, and we’re really proud of those efforts that we’ve made.

Those are definitely some unique programs that you guys have and love that you guys go to the schools and you guys make an effort to kind of work with, you know, our youth because in other podcasts, I’m a firm believer that, you know the children are our future, and it’s super imperative for them to be given that choice to have animals and be around them. And I feel like my kids especially we have five pets, and I make sure that my kids are very active in taking care of them, and caring for them, just in general, and understanding that you know, an animal isn’t just a toy that you can just pick up and throw around. Like, they are, you know, they’re beings and they have feelings and they have personalities of their own. And, you know, we have one pet that’s very mischievous and very playful. And then we also have one that just likes to kind of keep to herself. But I think that’s great. And I love the mental health one. The fact that you guys just sit there at the school and whether it’s a staff member student, I think that that’s super awesome that you guys do that. You guys kinda know what’s needed, and you guys have a vision and you know, you guys take those necessary steps to make that vision kind of a reality. So I think that that’s awesome. And I love hearing that you guys do so many programs and offer so many things.

So with all the good programs that you guys offer, what are some of the challenges that you guys face over there? There are a lot of challenges. Isn’t there always? Yes, absolutely. Oh, and one other thing before I forget, we also have placed dogs in assisted living facilities. Wow. So we had a wonderful story of a dog named Journey, which seems a fitting name, and she was scheduled to be euthanized the very next day, and we just took her. We had no idea where we were going to put her, and we happen to be doing a community event at a senior living center. And you know, where we bring in dogs and the seniors can just pet them and be with them. And it’s a wonderful thing for kids and seniors. A lot really respond well to that, but anyway, we brought Journey along because we didn’t know what else to do with her, and just made herself right at home, and by the end of the event, the director of the facility said, “would she want to live here?” Aww. And I still get chills talking about it, because I didn’t know that was even a possibility, and she said she could be the House dog. And so now this dog who was literally one day away from being put down, living her best life and she sleeps on the mat in, you know, in the lobby when people come in, and she greets them, and everyone knows her and she goes around to all the different people, she has free roam. And I swear she knows who needs her, and she’ll go and find those people and sit with them. So she she’s been amazing and we’ve been able to do that a couple more times, so that’s been another great community success story.

But to answer your question about challenges, there are a lot of challenges to running a rescue. I think there’s a lot of burnout because it is so relentless. As soon as we get to a group of dogs placed, there’s another group waiting. So sometimes it can feel overwhelming. “Are we really making a difference?” you know. Yes, we saved 250 the last year, but there’s more than a 1,000,000 that we didn’t save, that kind of thing. So it’s something that we all have to be aware of and try to guard against. We all need to take a breaks, physical and mental breaks just to stay recharged. There are some years that we will do fewer dogs because we need to dial it back a little bit for a reason. And we all have had to learn that sometimes we have to say no. Sometimes we just “No, we can’t take any more right now.” And it’s difficult but we have to make peace with that. That’s just the reality.

So I think there are those challenges. It’s hard for me personally. I don’t know if other volunteers feel this way, but I still get angry with people who want to return a dog, or get rid of a dog, something like, “Oh, I’ve had this dog for two or three years but we’re moving and we can’t take the dog with us, so we want to give the dog back.” You know those kinds of things I’m still struggling with how not to be angry about that because I have a hard time relating to that. Yeah. For me, a dog is family member, and we don’t give it up. If there’s only a few kind of situations that I can imagine for myself where I would make that decision, I mean if the dog were aggressive or endangering someone, of course. But when it becomes an inconvenience, that sort of thing really bothers me or someone says, “Oh, we want to return this dog and we want to get a puppy. We like the puppy.“ So that sort of thing. So I get angry with people I’m working at trying to just get over that and just say, “Okay, I can’t fix these people. I’m just gonna focus on trying to help the dog.”

And we also have people who will adopt and then literally one day later will say, I don’t think it’s working out, you know, and then we have to try to educate them. And that’s another thing we work to do in the community. A rescue dog, especially, you know, we don’t always know their history. We don’t necessarily know what they’ve been through. It’s going to take some time for them to feel safe and settle in. So there’s people who expect, kind of, move in ready dog like, there’s never gonna be a problem. It just–it rarely happens like that. So that could be difficult trying to sort of remind people that you need to be patient and the dog is figuring things out. Some people are great about it and some people are not. So we have to have a lot of patience dealing with people. So yeah, dealing with people is difficult, and there’s anger when we go into situations and we see the way that some dogs were treated and see people who just have made other things a priority, but not their dog.

And then it’s difficult because the communities that we deal with in these more rural areas, they don’t spay and neuter, and some of it is financial. You know, if you’re having trouble putting food on the table, you’re not gonna spend money fixing your pet. But some of it is just ignorance, and I don’t say that in an insulting way, but just literally lack of understanding that people will have these really antiquated views about “well, I don’t want to neuter my male dog because it takes away his masculinity,” or you know something like that or I’ve had someone say “I want my female dog to have babies so she can experience motherhood.” You know, it’s like she’s not a person, and that’s not something that your dog needs to experience. It’s often very traumatic for a lot of dogs who goes through that. So you know, there’s just a lot of ignorance and misinformation that we have to deal with. And again I struggle with, you know, you’re trying to find that balance between not getting too angry and trying to come at it more from a place of compassion and kindness. I’m working on that. It’s a working progress.

It definitely is, and taking the judgment out of that? It’s easier said than done, because I mean, you know, we all have those strong views like you pointed out. Over moving, you know, we can’t take our dog and it’s like, you know, there are people like I’m sure you and me, we’re like, “Okay, we’re not moving into a home unless they accept my dog,” you know. Exactly, right. And I totally understand it’s hard not to, you know, for my personal view, if you see somebody mistreating a dog and you don’t say anything, that you’re just as guilty as the person mistreating their dog, kind of thing. But it’s definitely hard to push that judgment aside, especially when you’re working with those people. But the fact that you are already kind of trying to work with them and let them know, “hey, you know, you just adopted this dog. Obviously, clearly one day is not going to be long enough for them to adjust to you and adjust to your home.” Right.

One of my favorite sayings in the rescue world is we don’t know what an animal’s past. We don’t know what they went through in their past life. The only thing that we can do is give them a brighter future, and I stand by that because we don’t know an animals past. We don’t know what they’ve experienced, what they’ve gone through, the horrors that they have probably seen. I mean, it’s awful and it’s scary to think about, but I do think that you guys are, especially you, because you’re talking about your personal experience. You’re definitely taking a step in the right direction by at least trying to educate these adopters and let them know, “hey, we’re here for you. This is what we can do to help,” and that’s a positive outcome. And I feel like that’s great. And I don’t think no matter what you do, you’re still gonna have that little bit of anger towards some of these situations because it’s hard not to.

Yeah, and I think that when you’re on the front lines every day, you know, that’s hard. But I do struggle with judgment and I’m trying to work on that and understand that being judgmental while understandable, I may end up kind of turning people away when I might have an opportunity to educate a little bit. That’s my personal struggle in trying not to be too judgmental. You know, I have some friends who have adopted expensive breeder dogs, and it’s hard. It’s hard for me to be excited about that, especially when I’m like, have you not been to my house? I always have a foster dog, you know, the people who know me of all the people, you know, you see what I’m doing with my life these days, So I’m trying to recognize that I can’t influence everyone. I’m not going to be able to change the entire world. But I try to focus on the, kind of, the small successes.

For example, my next door neighbors have seen a lot of dogs come and go from our house because we foster as well. They have a wonderful, pure bred dog. And they had always thought that they would get a second of that breed. And recently they came to me. And they said, “we have decided that we do want to get a second dog, but we want to get a rescue. We just feel like what you do and all the dogs that have come in. We can’t justify getting another dog from a breeder.” And that just meant a lot to me. Even though he’s only one person. As I said, I have lots of other friends have gone other routes. But this one person was affected. So I try to focus on that and not spend too much time worrying about the people that I can’t change and just say, “alright, I’m gonna do what I can. I’m just going to do what I can and just try to find peace with that.” Yeah, and that’s something you’re doing good at. And that’s something that kind of just makes this industry worthwhile you get those happy endings and those justifications that you are making a difference.

So I love the enthusiasm that you have towards what you’re doing. I love that you’re focusing on the animals, which are also focusing on fosters and the people around you and the people of your community. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so if somebody was looking to get in contact with your organization, whether it be to adopt, or to foster, or just be a volunteer, how can they go about getting in contact with you guys? So our website is, and that’s K-N-I-N-E. And all of that information is on there. We have a very simple foster form. If someone’s interested in fostering. we have a volunteer form, If someone says “I can’t foster, for whatever reason, but I might like help with something.” I would say, we have lots of opportunities, you know, we have opportunities for things that you can just do from your home so you don’t even have to go anywhere and you can be helpful. So all of that is listed on our website.

And then, of course, you can see the dogs that we have available and it’s changing all the time. But you can see the animals that we have, and there’s an adoption form to fill out. A nonbinding form if someone wants to meet any of the animals, and then we also have a really active Facebook page, which you can find us by typing in Knine Rescue. And again, we have followers from all over the country, not just in our specific area, I think, because it is a really fun and interactive page, and an engaging place to be, and a lot of useful information. So we’re always happy to have people on there who may not even be in this area but just want to be part of it. So there’s a couple different ways to get in touch with us, and we really are pretty good about getting back to people quickly.

Well, that’s awesome, Amy and I want to express to you I’m very happy that you took the time to come on our show today and talk with us and, you know, kind of help educate us on some of the real life situations that are going on in a rescue. And I think that’s something that is important for me and important for our listeners, is to kind of just see that overall picture. And it’s not just happy puppies and rainbows all the time that there’s some serious, heartfelt, tough decisions going on in a rescue organization. So thank you for taking the time to share that with us today. Absolutely. It’s really been my pleasure. I so appreciate the opportunity.

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